A Chinook helicopter just seemed to be randomly flying all over London today. It kept doing large circles from Greenwich to Westminster. It was funny because at one point I heard it go over head then a few seconds later Andrew Marr came up on the news and you could barely hear him talking due to the roar of this thing.



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From my office near Canary Wharf I regularly see either 1 or 2 Chinooks flying up-river towards Westminster, following the line of the river. Today at 3.30pm its just the 1…
A few weeks ago a pair of Apache attack helicopters made the same journey. I gather that all non-emergency services helicopters must fly below a certain level and must follow the path of the river while inside london.
I never see them return, where are they going?
I work next to Black Friars Bridge and almost see a pair of chinhooks everyday flying down the river.
What are they doing….is this some sort of military exercise?
It’s clearly a secret government conspiracy.
I realise this topic is an old one now, but I was sharing my Chinook phobia with my work friends at lunch yesterday and one of them discovered this discussion.
In fact this very morning another friend was rudely awoken by three, yes three Chinooks going over her house at 6am
Who are they and what do they want?
Is it just me or does anybody else think they look like huge, ugly insects?
Well Claire it’s an old topic but it seems to keep running and running. As you can see we have had a few comments on here in the last 14 months and I have recieved numerous emails about it.
Tony Blair has been known to travel around in them before, if he’s in a hurry, so that’s my guess on the occasional random flights. I think the scheduled ones must be exercises or urgent deliveries of some kind be it people or cargo.
Chinook, Chinook,
You make me puke,
You’re so ugly,
Sometimes I can’t look,
When you fly over head,
I hide under my bed,
Chinook, Chinook,
You make me puke.
Blue Thunder or Airwolf - discuss.
Airwolf - every time!
Airwolf - purely because of the theme tune.
Any other helicopter based programmes tickle you pickle? I used to have a thing for TC’s chopper in Magnum PI?
I have to say Blue Thunder, purely for that bit in the movie where they go into quiet mode to spy on the woman in the apartment undressing. Now THAT is an appropriate and innovative use of military technology.
You wanky and bad man Fulcanelli!
I’ve lived in London all my life and I’ve never seen a chinook but I was blinded at birth when an otter urinated in my eyes. My assistent is typing this.
Make purve, not war. That’s what I (almost never) say.
Hubert, there are numerous medical advances that could help you out. As Philip Larkin once said, “a life without a chinook/is half a life.” The trouble is, people like you just won’t help themselves.
Yes you’re a lost cause Spume.
Imagine never to look/Upon a London chinook,
Never to turn your gaze/Upon it’s twin rotor’d malaise,
Never to be able to stare/At that floaty wonder up there,
that would just be/a little bit crap.
T. S. Eliot
That’s beautiful Fulcanelli.
A haiku:
Look at that up there
It’s like two helicopters
Have had chinookie
Nakamura Kusatao (1901–1983)
Not so beautiful Fulcanelli, much like the abomination itself.
There was a young lady called Claire,
Who hated strange things in the air,
When I said “oh, look,
is that a chinook?”
You know what? She just didn’t dare.
Fulcanelli 2006
Fulcanelli, Fulcanelli
Just sits around to watch the telly
Crumbs he really is quite smelly
It’s because he doesn’t wash
Fabienne ‘06
Fulcanelli, Fulcanelli,
Went out shopping to the Deli,
Came back home with cakes and jelly,
But at least he isn’t scared of heli
Copters.
What a shame to never see a chopper,
The beauty in life I’m destined to miss,
‘Twas because as a child I came a cropper,
With some misdirected otter’s piss.
Heed the warning of poor old Spume,
To visual charms, he is immune,
A cautionary tale, from that old rotter,
Of misadventure, with an otter.
Compassion is all that I can feel,
As I once had a run in with an eel,
He slid in one ear, then out the other
But revenge was mine, I ate his brother
With some mushy peas
Claire, youz illin’, wit yo rhymes,
Youz mos wick’d, all dem timez,
All dem haterz, they will see,
Now pull up yo knickers, and make a cuppa tea.
There was a young scrubber called Claire,
To whom aircraft were such a nightmare,
When ‘copters flew past,
Her heart would beat fast,
So she sucked off a tramp in despair.
I apologise that this makes little sense.
You’re lowering the tone with your filth Spume. A fear of Chinooks is legitimate. It’s called Nookiephobia.
There once was a girl with Nookiephobia,
Who spent all her time in Fitzrovia,
Chinooks made her panic,
she’d get a bit manic
And spill all her tea alloverher.
Big bad chopper go away,
Come back again another day,
Or rather don’t coz I hate you,
You make me wanna do a poo
Dear fellow Londoners?,
For some time now many of you have been wondering why Chinook and other helicopters have been flying over the Thames and other ares of London. I have no doubt that for many years I have been under surveillance, by these helicopters. First I want to make it clear that I have broken no laws nor am I a threat to national security. I have just sent an e-mail to the Sun newspaper, explaning the specific circumstances surounding these bizzare events, which have been going on now for at least three years!
I have also been followed many times by people on the streets of London.
What is so strange about all of this is that there are also several wall socket transmitters in every room of my flat that were installed by electrical contractors about two years ago. In additon to these there are small closed-circuit tv cameras that have been inserted into the cavity of my walls in every room, which I have had officially confirmed by a professional technician.
I have written to everyone in the government, to try and find out what exactly is going on here. However, this government have been keeping quiet about this for many years now.
I also believe in addition to the bugging devices, there have been two sets of people who moved into the flat below me who have been systematically banging up at me and waking me up between 2:30am & 6:30am for over a thousand days. I can’t beleive that all that banging, the bugging devices the helicopter surveillance is just sheer coincidence. I can only assume the reasons for the banging is because the intelligence services want me out of my flat so they can search it secretly for something. What exactly they would be looking for, I have no idea!!
I’ve lost count the amount of times different, (mostly black helicopters) have been flying around Tabard Gardens Estate, where I live. Tabard Gardens is just a short walk to London Bridge which I have walked over many times and Blackfriars Bridge as well, and sure enough a helicopter is buzzing close by me. Every night like clockwork a helicopter and other small objects (which I cannot identify) have been flying around Tabard Park SE1, every night now for over three years.
These smaller objects (which are silent) are just giving off a faint pulsating light. They circle the park, practically every night, sometimes with a black helicopter close by.
I know that all of this sounds odd, but I swear on my mothers spirit that all what I have told you is true.
The Government will not confirm nor deny whether an individual is under surveillance or not. A classic catch-22 situation!!
I am as sure as I can be that the various Home Secretaries have issued warrants against me to the intelligence services.
How these helicopters know exactly where I am, whatever part of London I may be in, I have no idea.
I am sending this e-mail to all of you for what it is worth. I was looking through the internet and saw various e-mails regarding these military and other types of helicopters flying over the Thames, which sound exactly like the ones that have been keeping me under surveillance for so long.
I don’t know what any of you will make of all of this, but perhaps you would like to e-mail me and offer some suggestions on how I can solve this rather tricky problem.
I will await your earliest reply.
Yours Sincerely,
Tony Skortou
I hope you’re not mocking us Mr Skortou? This is a serious site where people have chosen to share their thoughts and poetry.
Keep your damn mouth shut about this, Skortou.
I’m sorry, I was joking, the whole thing’s a lie, forget everything I said.
That last comment was not by the “real” Mr Skortou but by the same person as Dr X.
That last comment was not made by the ‘real’ John Griffin but by the same person as Fulcanelli.
*stands up*
I’m Sparticus.
OK enough’s enough! I am honestly scared of Chinooks though. Thanks for your time John.
No, I’m Spartacus. (note how I can spell my name, Fulcanelli)
Dear fellow Londoners?
I have been reading some of your replies on the web site.
Some of you believe, I have just made it all up, or you just don’t believe me at all!!!
I can assure you that everything I stated in my e-mail; 12th June 2006, is true. (stranger things have happened!)
To Clair; I can assure you I am not mocking anyone. I would not waste my time. I swear on my mother’s spirit that everything I have related to all of you is true.
As for Doctor X. If that is a genuine threat, forget it buddy, I’m immune!!!
As for Mr fulcanelli. I just wonder how many brain cells he has inside that empty bonce of his.
Just keep watching the skies. Throughout any given day you will see all sorts of different types of military helicopters flying over the Thames and other areas of London .
Now, that may not be curious in itself. However, when these same helicopters (with very bright searchlights on their front) have been flying around my estate, practically every night and with other smaller objects (that have been giving off a faint pulsating light) that I cannot identify, then there is definitely something very odd that has been going on around the skies of my area, for at least three years now!!
Something very strange has indeed been happening to me as well as over the skies of London for some time now.
It would be interesting to find out exactly where these helicopters and other aircraft are coming from! Perhaps the Docklands Light Airport?
I’ll keep in touch.
The Real Tony Skortou!!!
fellow londoners.
yesterday I was in chelsea, next to the chelsea embankment.
As I looked up what i saw astonished me. I saw a jet black Apache attack helicopter flying east above the river. I was fortunate to have my digital camera with me and took a picture of said helicopter. The apache helicopter had no markings on it and blacked out canopy. the front mounted cannon was clearly visable. The Apache was the longbow variant with the sensor array on top of the rotors. I was in the army for many years so I could easily Identify this helicopter. the strange thing is my camera malfunctioned after taking the picture!!! It now doesn’t work. how strange? well not really because the helicopter can send an EMP burst in the direction that it senses from whereit has been locked on by infra red, which is what my camera did!
I live not that far from Battersea heliport. and I see Chinooks every day and have many pictures of them fly up and down the river! they frequently land at the battersea heliport. What we have to do is start asking why these military helicopters are flying over central london? for what purpose? chinooks arn’t that bad they are proberbly transporting The SAS or something like that. But Jet Black Apache Attack helicopters with no makings thats something else!!!! contact your MP’s and demand an answer. I will keep watching the sky and documenting this on film to present to my MP.
There is something sinister about this that needs to be looked into more closely.
Good luck to everyone.
max
Dear All!
Just seen another Chinook over to the south and west of Canary Wharf, Googled in “chinooks over canary wharf” and found this wonderful blog history. It doesn’t answer what I need to know.
These chinooks come and disappear. Living and working in Poplar I often see them and then also hear them at night. There’s a shortage of them in Afghanistan I heard the other day, so are they training for missions there?
tom
Did anyone see the lights in the sky last night 1/2/2007 over north london they had a helicopter escort, there was about 16 orange orbs.
Today, I saw three apache helicopters flying in a linear formation over Greenwich park. As Max Reid said above They had no markings on them and blacked out canopy’s. It seemed really odd to me as military copters usually have visible markings. Has the Met Police acquired new capabilities? I look forward to your replies…
More apache helicopters again today, flying up the thames.
I wonder, have the escalating problems with Iran got anything to do with it?
Hi there
I work in an office at London Bridge. Everyday there are various military helicopters go past my window. Usually chinooks (erk) but the past couple of days they have been Apache helicopters. I’m thinking, are they being rented out for filming movies or are the military just rushing back to base for tea and buns at lunchtime?
answers on a spangly type postcard
Chris
Well yesterday at 10:39pm I was driving around Cefyn Bryn on Gower, near Swansea and 2 Chinooks flew over me. They were completly blacked out, low and fast.
As for their reasons for being there… they are doing SAS training in Brecon around this time, so maybe they are from there, or at least to do with that…
One of them had a single green light. I dont know if its a coinsidence, but I also saw 4 police cars around Horton and Rhossilli… very strange night :))
Just wanted to share
Noisy Chinook over De Beauvoir town, N1. this safto.
How do they get permission.
V noisy chinook flying very low over SE12 at about 7pm this evening. What’s that all about?
This is also going on in Yuba City, California , US. There is something very strange going on.
just saw a chinook over wapping, then found this site… strange…
to Willow if you still around. I just tonight, 10/8/ 07, around 12;15 saw several reddish orangeish globes drifting really slow in North west of London area. There were maybe seven/eight of them and they looked a bit like the plough constellation a bit cock-eyed when I first seen them, then they drift up like they are coming closer and one by one they fade out. Not aircraft lights, and no helicopter escort unless he is invisible with big silencers ! Dont know what the things were, but interesting. Anybody else see my globes tonight? Aidan.
Many individuals on your website have been giving various accounts of different types of helicopters seen over London these past few years, especially black helicopters, that have no markings on them whatsoever.
These black helicopters are usually seen in the same vicinity as other strange objects (UFO’s), as some of you have been writing about for some time now.
I have also been seeing these same black helicopters and strange circular objects in the skies over London as well.
I have read many UFO reports from various individuals in Great Britain and other countries, especially from the United States. These black unmarked helicopters have been observed many times in the same vicinity as unusual aerial objects.
According to a number of UFO researchers these black helicopters are from some US military intelligence service known as MKULTRA. As their very name suggest, MKULTRA are an ultra secret military intelligence division, their members recruited by the CIA.
On the advice given to President Truman by he’s military advisors, MKULTRA came into existence, sometime in 1954. Since 1954, MKULTRA have been extensively involved in; the paranormal, mind bending drugs and the UFO phenomenon.
However, exactly what these black helicopters are doing flying over London along with other strange unidentified flying objects is any ones guess. Whatever the specific reasons, these black helicopters are flying (sometimes very low over specific London sites) I have no idea, though, it must be extremely important to the military command.
Does anyone else have any other thoughts on these strange occurrences that are going on above the skies of London?
Keep watching the skies!!!!
Mark.
just for your information the chinooks come from the WATFORD AREA of Hertfordshire reglarly each week,sometimes 2 or 3 and some have
some have U.S.NAVY on them and they go back and forth to Northolt mil airfield…..they originate from Welham Green near Potters Bar Hertfordshire and thats all i can say ……..
what’s going on - 5 of them just flew over our offices - sea containers house - the one next to southwark bridge with the big gold balls on the roof. are we at war?
Just been watching these from my office at the london studios.
They were all flying in a line, but snaking in and out in a sort of S shape way.
Very odd, they didn’t seem to be in any kind of hurry to get anywhere.
I used to work at Sea Containers House Sarah :-).
Hey Sarah L I just spotted (heard) those, I work right next to Southwark bridge.
5 large grey army helicopters in a line formation, heading towards london bridge along the river. Something large flew over a minute or so before, but i didn’t see what it was.
I sometimes see Chinooks fly over as well.
Conspiracy!!
I believe the 5 flying over the Thames today (and looping over London Bridge) were MH 53s…didn’t spot any markings so its possible they were flying over the DSEI arms fair at Excel in the docklands…
very strange! they did two circles and then disappeared. it caused a bit of debate in the office - “not they’re not chinooks” “ooh they could be sea kings” “they’re linxes”. Well to me, they were helicopters. Too many geeks in this office.
Sea containers = the building that should be a hotel! Nice view on the river though!
i saw those 5 as well today! they were massive!
it looked like some movie, very sureal.
Hello,
I saw those helicopters today, i was on the 12th floor of St Thomas’ Hospital, it was quite eeerie. I thought ten had gone past, I didn’t realise they did a loop….most bizarre!
As someone said before, I’m In the Sketty area of Swansea & I constantly see and hear this single Chinook flying overhead. Swansea has an old World War airport based here but thats about it for private flights.
Very small runway.., yet.
Boeing 727, 747’s etc go Extremely low over my house, the door shakes the noise is incredible. You can work out the bolts and landing hear etc on the base of the jet. They shouldn’t even be aloud to land here..
Anyway, Chinook’s, I just came across this thread because I’m trying to work on Chinook’s in a film, you’re right it is Eerie anyone seen ‘Right At You’re Door’
I love seeing them and wish I could more often. I think I’m changing into a plane spotter!
this link is awesome………
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUv9rmC3nE&mode=related&search=
I work close to the Tate Modern. Today I’ve seen a Chinook circling around, and two Apache helicopters which flew right over my office really low. They looked loaded, but not knowing much about them, couldn’t tell if they’re only fuel containers.
That’s the 3rd time I’ve seen Apaches in the last two months, and I see Chinooks a bit more regularly, sometimes in pairs. It’s quite nice seeing these regularly, used to enjoy watching them at ait festivals as a kid with my old man.
3 am monday morning large military helicopter flying over
our house in Baldock, very low for 25 minutes. not the first time
we must be a night training area.
Routine stuff methinks. Military racking up flying hours. There are plenty of military centres in London, so I am afraid your conspiracies are tosh. Chinooks also go over the parks ie Richmond and Wimbledon Common on their way into and out of London several times a week. Sometimes they do have no nav lights on though……..
er?
Take a look at the following page and you can see that the RAF are quite happy to publish flight details from their base in Odiham Hampshire(though maybe not all of them!).
Living in Epsom I can see them flying to London, sometimes in pairs but mostly singulary and more or less every day.
Like most helicopters flying into London, they fly quite low and follow a route that takes them above some of the larger parks in SW london, just in case they crash!
One of their main trips is to the Woolwich Barracks in South East
London dropping of troops etc.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/RAFodiham/flyinginfo/
Wonder if it’s anything to do with Endgame,
nah, Our Military I trust,
My Government I have serious doubts about.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4943675105275097719
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/200906terrorstorm.htm
Dear Folks,
Saw three…..yes, three Chinook helicopters flying around Tabard Gardens Estate, SE1 on the 8th April 2008! What on earth is going on?
I have never seen so much helicopter activity over London and especially the south-east. Perhaps it is to do with the recent spate of UFO activity that has been reported by a number of Londoners in the past few years?
Keep watching the skies folks, there is something really odd going on over the skies of London.
Yours Sincerely,
Mark Snow
I reckon chinny’s right. We have then flying over our offices in Teddington a few times per week, usually Chinooks but sometimes Apaches and maybe other bits & pieces (flightpath differs - usually in the middle distance but today right over my head).
Check his link - you can see where they’re going…
Apache sited today East of Waterloo bridge approached bridge at approx 700′ before turning back. All black, no markings. Single Chinook came down river approx 5 minutes later
I just found this site today. A few weeks ago (would have been the 20th of May I think) I was in Shoreditch and saw one of these Chinooks fly slowly west to east, just south of old street, and drop 2 banners with no markings. It then flew straight over the building I was in and made a loop back around and over the spot where it had dropped the banners. It went off north. Ten minutes later it came back from the north and continued again on the identical west to east path straight towards me. This time it dropped 5 parachuters out, just as it got over my building. The parachuters were dressed in black or very dark clothing and released a trail of red smoke behind each of them. They must have landed within 500 yards to the west of Shoreditch High St. I really don’t think those guys are looking for ufos as some have suggested. Seems more like paramilitary urban training, to be directed at us civilians in some near future… Anyone else see them or seen them?
20th june 2008, around 11pm. standing outside my building near liverpool street, a large helecopter (puma i think) flew over head at a very low height making its way towards the east end,i thought this was strange as the helicopter had no undercarrage lights on, i then went onto the roof of my building to see if i can find out wher it went. when i got to the roof i noticed that the helicopter had risen to a high altitude and doubled back towards the west, over st pauls area, i could barly make out the helicopter as it was still in darkness, then from the darkend helicopter i saw at least 8 parachutist jump out.
Well, i live in chelsea (no surpise there then?) I have a fantastic view of the river looking towards the west in sight of the helicopter pad in Battersea.
Chinooks have been around for some years with their ‘shake the chandeliers’ kind of disturbance as they go by. They really are quite ominous things and the sight and noise creates a feeling of anxiety. What I am trying to say is that they are noisy bastards and I don’t like them! They’re just a bit too creepy.
Only this year I have noticed these Apache military helicopters. They are around a lot. The only ‘official reason’ I can see for there being here is ensuring the path is clear and safe for certain ‘dignitaries’ (another word for blood sucking, murdering, lying toe rags). The Apache (so we are told) are the most sophisticated helicopter in the sky – built to encompass large amounts of data and discern enemy threats for group engagements as well as safeguard it’s own safety. A serious intelligence gathering machine.
These black helicopters covertly depositing para’s over the capital is scary stuff but no more scary than the kinds of things our governments are up to anyway – courteousy of Chomsky and Alex Jones.
Does anyone know of any deep underground facilities in London like that in Denver airport ? As part of a Continuance Of Government (COG) like initiave as in the US?
I Live a couple hundred yards from Battersea Heliport so constantly here and see helicopters taking off, landing and circling. I have notice a build up Chinooks in the last few years also. I saw one land and take of today (shook got the camphone out) these things are scary close up. I had a look at the heliports webiste and they point out that on some ’special event days’ (F1 racing days in the UK, Royal Ascot etc) there’s increased helicopter activity over London. We’re in the middle of Wimbledon right now so it may be that some royals use Chinooks to get about.
its due to a pole shift london wake up b4 its to late i use to work goverment communication and the build up in helies as we call is due to the fact our goverment is expecting something to happen in the next 4 years what there expecting i was never told just a major flood is due and thats the least of our worries
I’m wondering if anybody out there can help.
I live in Eltham and have a terrific view of the London skyline. I’ve seen all different types of military helicopters like the Puma. Lynx, Gazelle, Merlin, plenty of Chinooks and on one occasion a pair of A-10 Thunderbolt turning over Canery Whalf.
I herd a helicopter on Saturday (28 June 2008) late morning, look at of my bedroom window and saw an Apache very low. I saw the helicopter go down as in landing. would any-one have idea where it landed.
Hello,
I live in Hertford, Herts and a chinook flew over 30mins ago going north and has just returned southwards towards London.
I keep seeing/hearing them and googled “chinook over hertfordshire” to try and find out what they are up to, I still have no idea what they are doing but at least I now know…
Compassion is all that I can feel,
As I once had a run in with an eel,
He slid in one ear, then out the other
But revenge was mine, I ate his brother
With some mushy peas..
Thanks google
Just saw a Chinook over temple/chancery lane/fleet street (so down by the river… It circled around a couple of times banking quite sharply. I’ve seen them a few times - you can always hear when it’s a chinook!
That same Chinook must have flown over from the river and out towards the east as it flow over my area (Wanstead) at about 12:20 - 12:25
What are they upto?
I often see chinooks from my office window. I think they’re used for flying to and from places. I can also see boats and cars. I recently saw somebody pushing a bicycle. None of this strikes me as interesting.
Spume, old boy - has there been a miraculous recovery from your unfortunate contretemps with the otter?
Praise the Lord!
By the way, harking back to the Blue Thunder/Air Wolf debate… bet none of you youngsters remember N975B, flown by the Whirlibirds?
Ah yes, my blindness, it had momentarily slipped my mind. When I say I ’saw’ chinooks, what I mean is I ‘heard’ them. This is how we, the blind, speak. There’s a sort of slang in our community.
this is the best thing i’ve found in ages!!! what was that Tony Skorr on about “im immune” hahaha whatever mate!
anyway another siting today over London Town
I saw on fly over my house and then land somewhere in the camberwell/brixton/denmark hill area. It was on the ground for bit and then off it went again, couldn’t see exactly where it landed… hmmmmm?
Just had a chinook flying so low over my house that I thought the window panes would fall out. Location is Loghborough junction in South London. It then descended over an area that from direction and distance could only have been Ruskin Park (Def. NOT the Hospital, too far east). It surfaced again shortly after and left in a westerly direction. Seems v. similar to what Huebert wrote.
So, what are they doing?! Practicing? Dropping off people? Who? Why?There’s not much to do/load off in Ruskin Park? Those things must cost a fortune to run, no? And imagine an accident over buildt up London? Very bad press. I’m sure there’s a mundane answer, but nobody really has offered a completely satisfactory one yet…?
I just read that having a Chinook in the air for an hour costs around £15′000. So they must have good reason for doing so. Clocking up flight hours…?
Maybe they’ve got a load of Air Miles from buying the Queen Mother’s gin from Tescos?
I was at the Eastbourne Airshow on Saturday and spoke to the Blue Eagles (Army Air Corps) and they said its not them but it may be they need to follow a flight path over the Thames to check its still in order
I saw 2 together the other day and one today… im pretty sure I saw an Apache the other day too
Great stuff!
To check the Thames is still in order? What might happen to it? Could gypsies run off with it?
Well, you never know!
There is a heli hovering over the Thames now…
And the Chinook just went over too
Over here in the US I rarely see military helecopters….but of course It’s a big Country and bases are few and far between. But Lately I’ve seen Chinooks and Blackhawks flying to and from a small civil airport near my home.
They’re just training missions I guess. But what I don’t understand is so many of you posters think the Chinook is UGLY!? WHAT? It is one of the coolest looking choppers in the air. Bad-ass in my opinion. As a sky diver, I would love to jump from one someday….
OH, one more thing- the Chinook is actually quiet compared to many civil choppers.